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My personal “Moving to Canada” experience

Filed under: Think Mauritius — Patrick Ng at 5:18 am on Saturday, December 8, 2007

In asking me to write about my own personal emigration to Canada experience, Noor, one of Think Mauritius’ readers made me realise that all my previous posts about Immigration Canada look more like chapters of Moving to Canada for Dummies guide: what one should expect, do and not do once they are in Canada. And although all my posts are based on my own experience, up to now, I have never actually talked about it. So here it is. Enjoy, or at least try (smile).

After I finished my secondary education in 1995, I enrolled in the BTS Informatique de Gestion programme at the Mauritius Chamber of Commerce and Industry Centre for Business Studies (MCCI), not because I wanted to become a programmer, but because my parents did not have the means to send me abroad for further studies. There, I met Eddy Young (http://priscimon.com/blog), one of the two guys behind the creation of this blog. The other one being Stéphane Lee (www.stephanelee.com).

Anyway, after I graduated in 1998, I got a job at CIFOD (French Embassy), but decided to move six months later, not because the pay was not good, but rather because I felt I was not learning enough new things at an early and crucial stage of my career. So, I resigned from CIFOD, and took a job as a programmer at Overseas Software Development (OSD), a French offshore software development company. There, I learned about Visual Basic, SQL, and Crystal Reports–all of which would turn out to be very helpful later in Canada. Work experience is priceless! Remember this. However, two years later…surprise, I again felt the need to move and learn new things, and decided to apply for permanent residency in Canada.

Applying for permanent residency was an exciting experience, and I was really looking forward for my permanent resident visa. Yet, when the visa finally arrived, I was brought back to reality and started to ask myself a lot questions, essentially thinking if it was a wise decision after all–you, too, will be asking yourselves these same questions. Nevertheless, I stuck to my plan because I already spent too much money and invested too much of my time to not at least give it a try.

So, on June 5th, 2001, I landed in Toronto with one goal in mind: find a full-time job as soon as possible so that my fiancée could join me. I did find it two months later as a bilingual technical support person at a manufacturing company. Now, even though going from a programmer to a support technician did not seem as a career advancement at first, I did learn many new things, and was glad I did. I learned the tips and tricks of Windows, and various other pieces of software. I learned to keep my calm even when frustrated, angry, or in the line of fire, and most of all, “troubleshooting techniques” which can be very helpful in various situations in life.

However, although a job can keep you busy, it cannot indefinitely keep homesickness at bay. Eventually, I started to feel home sick, so home sick that I flew to Mauritius for one week just six months after my arrival in Canada. In fact, until my, now wife joined me in February 2003, each year I flew to Mauritius to avoid depression. From my own experience, I think those of you who are moving to Canada as couple or a family will feel less home sick because you’ll have each other. There will be more mouths to feed, but you’ll have more moral support to handle the difficult situation. Its good to have relatives in Canada, but it’s just not the same.

As you would expect, these flights to Mauritius together with the various goods I had to buy at the beginning were not kind to my bank account balance, which was still in its infant stage. Bed, mattress, microwave oven, vacuum cleaner and other goods cost a lot of money, but had to be bought, unless I wanted to sleep on the floor or live in dirty apartment.

Luckily, like I said before, with some hard work and perseverance, things tend to get better with time. Little by little, through wise spending, we started to increase our bank account balance. Of course, from time to time, we went out for dinner or to the movie theatre. Things got even better when my now wife got a part-time job. In the meantime, I have also started working towards a BA French Studies part time. And my employer is paying for my tuition fees, is not this cool?

So there you have it…my personal “Moving to Canada” experience. If you’ve read all my previous posts on Think Mauritius, you’ll notice that what I wrote there and what I wrote here are not very different. What I wanted to say is that at the beginning, life will be tough, unless you come here with tons of money. But I think it’s safe to say that those who have tons of money usually don’t leave Mauritius. However, if those before me and I were able to make it, then you should be able to make it too. Mauritians (and most immigrants for that matter) have a very good quality: we are all hard workers. So, whenever you’re facing hardship, remember that you’re not alone, and think of it as a right of passage.

46 Comments »

Comment by Noor

8 December 2007 @ 7:00 pm

Hy Pat
Thx very much again in accepting to relate your personal experience.
Your humble few words shows what kind of person you are ( even if we dont know each other personally, though definitely i would like to )and if today you are starting to reap rewards for your efforts, its all what you dearly deserve..Im really glad that your lifes there getting easier for you.. Your experience is clearly the best example that people going to canada should imperatively have the will to strive and survive cause success will definitely come with time..But patience is the key

I would also like to thank you for all the advice youve given to us , so far its been extremely helpful.Just keep it up man..

As always
Noor

NB: While reading your background, i can see myself.. Same like you , not from a rich family and had always worked hard to get what i need. And the main reason for me to apply for immigration is definitely alike : THE NEED TO MOVE ON AND LEARN NEW THINGS

Comment by Patrick Ng

8 December 2007 @ 7:16 pm

Hi Noor,

Thank you for the kind words.

The most important advice I’ve been trying to give to all those coming to Canada is: Give yourself time. It will take time before you get your first car, your first house, etc. A good analogy to explain what I am trying to say is: “A newly planted coconut tree will take years before producing coconuts.”

Comment by Noor

9 December 2007 @ 6:34 am

Hy pat

yes this is a good example but in mtius people can work this problemaround.. :-)
“Si ou papa ministre, li pou aste ene pied coco avec so coco li pou mete divant so la porte!”

Comment by Vijay

11 December 2007 @ 5:53 am

Hi Patrick and Noor,

I really appreciate your comments buddies.The experience of Patrick is indeed a very rich in events that i found myself in the same boat as you guys.

Anyway keep it up buddies.

And keep in touch.

Bye for now.

Vijay

Comment by Hassen

3 March 2008 @ 2:02 pm

Hi Patrick, Vijay, Noor, Dodo and others

I am Hassen . I have found this blog very useful.Things i have read here gave me “the big picture”of canada and the canadian life. Actually,am planning to move to canada with my fiancee. I have graduated in computer science and am actually working in software development company. My fiancee is working as an education officer in a private secondary school. She graduated in Physics.I have contacted SAJ Int for the immigration purposes, since we didnt know where to start, who to contact. Some friends advised us to go there. We have appiled under the Quebec Programme as the waiting time is supposed to be much less. But even that the people at SAJ, told us that it’l take us around 2 years to get our PR!!
The first and big question is for me the Job sector. Will we both able to make it?? I mean me ,and my fiancee are from different “working backgrounds”. will one of us have to sacrifice his job prospect in his/her field??And which one has more prospect.I mean we can both work in any small jobs at the beginning but will we be able to make it??
Also upon landing in Quebec, is it true that we can go easily to other provinces??

N on a more personal note, since I come from Port-Louis, where everybody knows its always hot, I fear a lot about the canadian winter!! Will I be able to survive the winter :-)

I thank you all. I will in contact more often now that am on the “road to canada”. Cheers and Bye

Comment by Noor

4 March 2008 @ 6:18 am

Hy Hassen
So its great to hear that the group of mauritians leaving for canada is increasing.

- Concerning time elapse for PR: Normally the application to the Federal Govt used to be faster, but since last year, the govt of quebec has decided to increase its entry per annum. So this is why the waiting time for the interview has decreased from an average of 2 years to one year. So, you should start counting as soon as you get your file number. Its not when you apply that counts. Then expect around 14-15 months before getting an interview. And if your lucky enough, you may even get the CSQ directly without any interview. Then you shall be left with the medicals and it will take another year to get your visa.

- Concerning jobs : You should tune your mindset that its gonna be hard the first few YEARS. And believe me, in 90% of all cases, its gonna be TRUE!So donot expect you will get your job straightaway. Be open, donot restrict yourself to what you did here in Mtius. Its not because you are a software developer, you can’t make your way to other fields of IT and why not in another career. Opportunities will come, but you need to be open minded and patient.At first You must take whatever you get.Its not just merely saying that, you need to be psychologically ready to do it NOW not LATER. One way you could test your determination is put yourself in a situation that in mtius itself for some reason or other, you had to leave your comfortable job of software developer and work at for eg. Mc Donalds. How you feel?? …If you cant do that, expect your life to be really tough. Of course if your lucky you can get your job straightaway, but what if not?? Always prepare for the worse. Thats my advice. And about your wife’s career, search on the web for how they employ teachers there. Each province have their own procedures. Be sure you read about it and see how she fits in. I dont want to make you afraid, but ive known teachers with 20 years of experience here in Mtius, have never got their job as Teacher again in Canada. AT midcareer level, you will always have that difficulty. But if im not mistaken, you’re a young couple. You have more time and courage.So the trick to get the job, is that you need not focus on your experience here, but rather find out what the procedure and qualifications needed in canada to work as a teacher. Then you work through that, study if need be and in a few years you shall succeed.

- Climate : Its not that because you come from port louis that you will find it harder to adapt to the low temperatures. In general, we all as Mtians will face the same difficulty cause we have a tropical climate here. Read about patrick’s advice about how to face the winter, it will definitely help.

Other provinces : Yea once landed you can move to other provinces. But its not advisable to leave Quebec without having got any ID cards and all required papers. Just imagine you have lost your passports and you dont have any other ID with you?? hehehe.. So be sure why you are leaving Quebec. If you have family waiting for you in other provinces, then its good moving. But if its just a mere choice, i would advise you to stay a few months in Quebec. It will help you get your papers and also lodging is cheaper.

So in general what you need is a really strong determination. You need to build that up. That applies to your wife too. Its gonna be a tough time, but be patient. As a couple, you should be ready to assist each other. Its not going to be a White paradise, but definitely on a long projection, its gonna be much better that the SUN , SEA , SAND ( and the newcomer SEX ) logo of mauritius.

As always
Noor

Comment by Hassen

10 March 2008 @ 2:37 pm

Hi Noor

Thanks for your valuable advices. We are at the baby stage of our”demarche”here. We’ve still got so

much to do, that we don’t no where to start. Certificates to “certify”. The first little humps, that

we have to go through is the afidavit that we’l have to make. Since me and my Fiancee are not yet

married, and as such not living together, we’ll have many things to do, to prove and so on.. So and

so papers to show.. etc. It’s areal casse-tete, i Tell you and we are even thinking thats it should

have been better that we got married, before we had applied for immigration tp canada.But

unfortunately, due to some family constraints , we wont be able to do it.
Do you think that not being married , but already a couple, can be a thing that can make the

canadian people reject our dossier?? It’s a little thing that i Fear may arise……

Concerning the jobs.. It’s a harsh reality that we both shoud accept.. Before getting this cosy job

as you say, i have had to really strive.. Not much but for 5months. Even being a graduate, without

experience , the only jobs that were offered to me at that time, were those as Call Center Agents,

etc..It paid well,but i accepted to be salesperson in the IT Dept in a well-known retailing company

here in Mauritius. It paid less that Rs 6000 at that time,working 7 days out of 7!! and during the

peak season 12 to 14hours of work!!! But the job allowed me to get valuable experience in many

things.
Now that I have this job, of 40 hrs per week, i can look back and think on all the hardships gone

through. And I am ready, to go through all the hardships again working odd hours,etc..
I know its more easily said than done, but everyday I am trying and doing the maximum I can to

prepare myself to this harsh reality..

The most important reason why we both decide to move to canada, is because we are thinking for the

future. I mean we both had to strive a lot before we got our first job after graduating. Its not

easy to get a job even if you’ve got a degree back here in Mauritius, at the beginning of your

professional career at least.
Nowadays, Unless you have contacts here, you wont get that “secured government” job. People with

less good results can step up on you and your chance for even an interview just because they know

this or that “deputee” or minister!!
It’s still the case now in Mauritius, and i seriously doubt this “mentality” would ever change. Its

the politicians themselves who have implemented this system.
To put it in their language to “protect their people”.
But luckily there is still the private sector where you can get a good decent job.
Even that with life getting more and more expensive everyday here the amount of money you get,

example Rs 15-22 k is not enough to take a leap in life.
I mean to actually buy a plot of land and build a house on it is almost like binding yourself

indefinitely to the Bank. Building costs are now very very high in mauritius. Cement , iron bars

prices have sky rocketed!! you can almost say when you are building a house: Rs 800-1000 per square

feet, depending if you are someone who is very “debrouillard” in terms of saving on this or that.
Loans interest are around 12.75 % on home loans , on personal ones almost 16-17%!!!
We must be ready to pay Rs 5000-8000 per month for certain loans for several years if we want to

take the risk.

I mean life is not heaven in Canada also but is it much easier as its back here in Mauritius?? What

are the views of people who have just moved to canada.. What is it to gain coming to canada?? To

lose is the family and friends that we’l not be able to see and meet

Both me and my fiancee are starting life now.I mean professionally. We both have 2+ years of working

experience now.I know that if we both strive here after 4-5years (but i expect much more) , we can

live decently. But we’ve decided to start that life coming to canada.. Is it a good decision..??

Changing a country and life?? And starting again a new grounds??? Are there more things to be lost

than to be gained??

Thank you
Hassen

Comment by Hassen

10 March 2008 @ 2:43 pm

Hi all,

Just a little note. Yesterday I was watching the usual “Journal Televisee”, and i saw that through the “Empowerment Programme”, the Mauritian government are sending 100-200 people to Edmonton to work in place to slauthering poultry and all that. For those who dont know the Empowerment Programme is like something set up by the Government to help people.As they say..
Anyways, i Just wanted to know, are these people really going to make it there. Or they going to like enslaved in those and be ‘a la merci’ of the employers there??

Cheers

Hassen

Comment by Dodo

10 March 2008 @ 4:42 pm

Hassen,

Don’t know your families’ constraints wrt the wedding but will it be appropriate to have a civil ceremony just for your papers. Mind you, in quebec the wife keeps her maiden name and most Quebecers are not even married ( they live as common law partners) but I don’t know how much this will impact your application (s).

Don’t know about the Empowerment program but i can assure that there is a big difference coming here as an Immigrant versus a “guest worker”. You won’t have the same rights because somewhere in that program there is a middleman who will be making more money than the salary you will be bringing home. At one point , the Alberta govt allowed some companies to bring in some Fijians to work as cooks. Poor fellows though that they will be working as assistant chef in 3/4/5 stars hotels – they end up working in the fast food industry like MacD and whoever the agent who brought them were charging them money for their airplane tickets and rent ( more than what an ordinary chap coming to settle would have paid)

Comment by Patrick Ng

11 March 2008 @ 12:26 am

Hi Hassen,

Like Dodo said, it would have been better if you could have the legal document. But it seems that you already applied. True, there are a lot of unmarried couples in Canada living together as common-law partners. However, unlike them, you have not been living together. I may be wrong, but I don’t think anything prevents you from having your legal wedding in Mauritius, and then let immigration Canada know that your status has changed. You’ll have to check on http://www.cic.gc.ca. The problem with immigration laws is that they keep changing. Things have changed a lot since I applied for permanent residency.

Good Luck.

Patrick Ng

Comment by Alvin

9 May 2008 @ 3:22 pm

Hi There
Any advice on someone thinking of immigrating to Mauritius? I am a South African who is attracted to living in a warm, coastal, mixed race community with low crime and I have heard that Mauritius is the place!
So how about it? A pro’s and con’s of immigrating to Mauritius???? An insiders views for a total outsider.

Comment by Noor

21 May 2008 @ 10:48 am

Hy alvin

I will not tell u much cause i dont the way of getting into mtius.. But what i can tell is that thousands of people are leaving the country.. so think well..

As always
Noor

Comment by Zabeen

28 June 2008 @ 12:51 pm

Hi Patrick,

Thanks a lot for your advice. I also did a BTS Informatique de Gestion at the MCCI some 8 years ago. I would like to know if employers over there recognise the BTS and if I will be able to secure a good job or will I need to continue my studies?

Thanks
Zabeen

Comment by Milan

4 August 2008 @ 7:20 pm

hey , i stumbled on this site while searching infos on how to move to canada , …thank to Pat , this really helps to share your experience!

, and to everyone who contribute to it.i am still s student at UOM and as many fellow here , we tend to have the grass-better-on-the-other-side syndrome..I wanted to move to canada after my undergraduate studies here, and wanted to know , if its easier to get a job and settle there after i complete a post graduate (MSc) course over there?Would it help get into the system quicker? (… but i know the initial years , specially during the studies and all these will be real difficult.)…could anyone share some ideas?
Keep it up guy!it really helps!

Comment by POLO

24 September 2008 @ 3:46 pm

HI NOOR/PATRICK

I HAVE READ YOUR VALUABLE ADVICE WRITEN. AS SUCH CAN YOU REPLY TO ME FOR THESE QUESTION IF POSSIBLE.

1. I HAVE SEND MY DEMAND FOR CSQ ON MY OWN WITHOU ANY AGENT i.e SAJ or BLOCK. THE ONLY THINGS THAT PREOCCUPIES ME IS THAT. DO WE NECESSARILY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE TEST D’EVALUATION FRANCAISE TO EVALUATE OUR FRENCH KNOWLEDGE? FOR INFO, I HAVE FRENCH AS MAIN IN MY CAMBRIDGE HSC CERTIFICATE.
2. YOU SAID IN YOUR NOTES THAT THERE IS A POSSIBILITY OF NOT GOING THROUGH AN INTERVIEW. AS SUCH IT MAY TAKES US 1 AND A HALF YEAR (IF WE HAVE OUR FILE NUMBER OF COURSE). IS THERE ANYWHERE WE MAY READ THE NOTICE WHERE THE QUEBEC PROVINCE DECIDED TO INCREASE ITS IMMIGRANTS?
3.

Comment by sunye23

26 January 2009 @ 3:54 am

Hi everybody
I am a mauritian in canada since may 2003.I recently came across this website and would like to share with people who want to immigrate to canada.I will post my experience in details later.But for the time being I just say that I agree with Patrick.If all the mauritians could make then anyone else from mauririus can do the same. I had a much harder start than most people.In the last 5 years here I even had to live for two years in very cold northern ontario. But all this paid up eventually, and today i ahve a happy life in Toronto.
Suny

Comment by sunye23

26 January 2009 @ 4:04 am

Hey Milan
I dont want to discourage you, but in Canada degrees from other countries does little to help if ever.With a digree from UOM I had to go for refresher courses to get a job in my profession.But I know for some people it might be different, since I was in the health sector.So I will advise all mauririans who are in the queue waiting to come to Canada, enquire well before investing into new courses.You can enquire through the internet, look especially for associations or organisations that evalaute your prior learning etc.

Suny

Comment by Patrick Ng

2 February 2009 @ 12:04 am

@Zabeen

It’s a tough question to answer. I was lucky to get a job with my BTS Informatique de Gestion. I don’t know how recognized it is really because I was able to get quite a few interviews. I guess my experience counted more than my diploma. For example, I targeted a lot of companies needing someone who is fluent in French and who also knows Crystal Reports a lot.

@Milan and Suny

The way I see it is a Bachelor degree is better than no bachelor degree. A Masters degree is better than not Masters degree. In short, anything is better than nothing. I made it with a BTS only. That being said, a degree alone is not enough. It also depends on the job demand, how you write your cover letter and C.V, how you handle the interview, and of course your experience. You also need a bit of luck.

But, you’ve got a point Suny. Investing in new courses wisely is a good idea.

Please keep in mind that I am not a specialist in immigration nor in labour economics. Each person’s mileage will vary. Some will have a relatively easy time settling down and prosper whereas others will have a relatively hard time settling down and see the light at the end of the tunnel. What I’m trying to say is that I don’t discourage anyone from coming to Canada. Everyone wants to have a better life, and is entitled to it. However, I don’t want to say that everything is rosy out there, because it is not. This is the tough part: choosing in between taking the plunge or not. Unfortunately, we don’t a crystal ball to tell us what the future is like.

Comment by Patrick Ng

2 February 2009 @ 12:21 am

@Polo

I don’t know much about Quebec rules as far as immigration is concerned. I don’t pretend to know much more for the other provinces either. Immigrations laws change so often that one has to keep checking the immigration site regularly to be able to keep up with the changes…unfortunately. But please check out http://www.cic.gc.ca. There is a lot of valuable information there.


Patrick Ng

Comment by Milan

5 February 2009 @ 5:39 am

hey thanks suny
im thinking about getting a few years experience working here, before moving on.Thanks , i’ll see for the recognition before proceeding with my “demarches”…
and @ suny
if you could tell us more about your start over there , how did it went on? you made it for a post grad course?

@ Patrick
yeah , we do kknow that you’re not a specialist in immigration but nevertheless sharing your experience proves really useful.Thanks! :D

Comment by Noor

19 February 2009 @ 5:48 am

Hy guys…

its been a long long time since my last post here. i thought people no longer posted on the blog. Its great to see the last comments, meaning that its still alive here…

To answer Polo’s query, i would like to point out that the immigration section in Paris ( responsible for the quebec delegation ) have had an increase in their staff number. since approximately 18 months ago, the delay for demand for CSQ has greatly decreased. Many mauritians are getting their CSQ straightaway without any interviews and that too in less than a year. Others waiting for interview are happy enough to see that the Quebec delegation is coming at least twice a year now in Mauritius for interviews. So the waiting queue is less harsh than it has been in the last few years.
But one thing you need to remember, once your CSQ is obtained, you’ll need to send all your docs to nairobi. Thats where its gona stuck. The number of CSQ getting into nairobi is increasing and so their load of work. But there is still hope .. You know why? The number of request for immigration straightaway to the federal govt is decreasing since the new laws of selection , a law that doesnt affect Quebec immigrants…
SO the delay before getting your visas in hand will eventually be the same. 2.5 to 3 years.. The only difference is that you gonna get your CSQ much quicker but your gonna wait a bit longer for Nairobi to issue medicals and thereafter your visas.

As always
Noor

Comment by Samia

19 May 2009 @ 11:29 am

Hi All,

I feel glad to hear from mauritians who have established themselves in canada. Well, I just received my medical report and I am near to receive my PR to canada (all this through SAJ).

I am just starting to think if I am doing the right thing of moving to canada as I have heard many good and bad things also (I have so many doubts!!).

When I have read about each comments here, I feel a bit less lonely. I would like to thank Patrick Ng for doing this blog as it is very helpful.

I have a BTS Action Commerciale from MCCI and have 4 years experience. My husband and I are wondering if we will be able to make it???. We sincerely hope that we would be able to get a job and make a better life.

Samia

Comment by khan

23 June 2009 @ 9:26 am

Hy samia

i am going to montreal in less than a fortnight and hope we meet there..what i wanted to tell u is that you need to build a fighter’s spirit… lifes gonna be harsh at the start .. Havings doubts about the unknown is quite normal but dont overreact, that will impede your logical thinking and you will stress yurself more than required. Like i always said, if you had good arguments for leaving your home country, use that as a target and it will help you build your confidence.
i dont know if you have any notion of risk management, but every project has a risk associated to it. its up to you to quantify that risk and leverage it against the possible and realistic benefits. if the benefits make up more than the risks, then go ahead. But on the other hand, ill advise you to think it all over again and re assess the feasability of your immigration project.
i am not trying to scare you, but you need to be sure of what youre looking to gain in canada. Everyones life is a case on its own and one cannot assess its success based on another ones failure. Your immigration success will be based on what you have defined as a successful immigration project. Remember canada is not waiting for you to hand over to you all its treasures..Be pragmatic and dont worry we’ll be here to help.

See you soon in canada

Comment by Noor

21 July 2009 @ 7:09 pm

Hy samia

Let me tell you something.. everyone who’s got patience succeed here.. you will have a few months of transition and that will the hard part..it can be overcome if you have good friends or family that will help you settle down..if you come in Winter, it will be harder but not impossible..everything’s possible here..
You need a lot of patience..it might take a year or two or retake courses in order to be able to regain the same jobs you had in Mauritius, but believe me you WILL succeed.. There’s a lot of facilities here..
when you come here, you will see for yourself, i cant enumerate those and it depends also on the province you’re going to settle down…

if you have any questions, we are here to help

As always
Noor

Comment by Samia

17 August 2009 @ 12:54 pm

Hi Noor and Khan

Thanks for your supportive comments. That gives me an encouragement. However it’s difficult to choose which province to settle down (toronto, montreal, vancouver or….) as I have never been in canada and don’t have any family/friends as well to guide me. (Should I “pick pool” comme on dit):)).

How did you people choose where you wanted to live?? cause I found this quite difficult when you have to move with the entire family from one place to another.

Where is there more chance for me and my husband to get jobs? What advantages do we have in Canada? (Is this a silly question; i really dont know!!!!!!)

Can I have a comparison between UK and Canada, cause I live in UK for several years and came back recently!!

Comment by Noorani

17 August 2009 @ 11:18 pm

Hy samia
I’m stuck in the road traffic of Montreal,so I take opportunity of it to write a few words
The choice of province is a hard one.it depends a lot on what’s yur priority. Between Ontario and the province of Quebec it’s basically a balance between expenses and job opportunities. In general,in terms of education,pension n cost of living it’s much better here in Quebec .in terms of job opportunities it’s much better in the province of Toronto .Surely you will tell me that getting a job is the decisive factor but I kinda will disagree with that since the first few weeks of expenses in the suburb of Toronto can prove much more painful to your pocket money until you land a job.
One more thing,it’s a completely different country here with respect to uk. So forget that comparison.
If you need more info, feel 3 to drop in yur mail n I’ll try as much as possible to help you.

Yours,
noorani

Comment by samia

26 August 2009 @ 7:22 am

Hi all,

I got my PR today!!! I will be moving to canada soon. Hope everything goes fine and that I get a job quickly.

Comment by Noor

26 August 2009 @ 8:48 pm

congrats samia
so any idea of where you want to come , i mean which province?

Comment by Dodo

27 August 2009 @ 1:24 am

Samia

You have mentioned cities not provinces:
The two main cities of :
1. Quebec are Montréal and Québec city ( ou ville de Québec)
2. Ontario: Toronto and Ottawa
3. Alberta: Calgary and Edmonton
4. British Columbia : Vancouver and Victoria which is located on Vancouver Island
Confusing, you bet

Comment by Samia

27 August 2009 @ 1:17 pm

Hi Noor and Dodo,

Thanks. Well don’t know much about Canada that’s why mix up between province ansd cities. Anyway, i will found out soon. I am a bit apprehensive right now. Did not expect to have PR that soon.

Noor: Don’t know yet. Still deciding. How is job prospect right now in Canada. Is it difficult to get a good job? Does it take long? Should I do a study in canada?

Your advice will be most welcome!!!

Comment by Samia

28 October 2010 @ 1:23 pm

Hi everyone,

I finally visited Canada this year to validate my PR. I went to Montreal and its indeed nice and beautiful. I went to Toronto as well and found that it suited me better.

I came back to Mauritius to settle a few things and hopefully I will be back by early next year.

Hope that all Mauritians there are keeping well!

Comment by Patrick Ng

11 November 2010 @ 5:19 pm

Hi Samia,

I’m glad that you were able to visit both Montreal and Toronto to see which one you like more.


Patrick Ng

Comment by RS

21 November 2010 @ 9:11 am

Hiya All,

I have read almost every line on this blog and its been very nourishing. Firstly i would like to tell my bg so as any1 counseling me will get a broad idea.

Well am 24, did my undergraduate @ UOM in Accounting with IS. I currently work @ SBM. I have accumulated 2 years of experience. ( On various jobs)

For my part, am willing to endure anything. Imagined the worst case scenario and my will power is strong enough for me to make it. At then end of the day when i did my homework i saw Mauritius won’t give me anything. You will just live day to day. I want to seek new horizons and am pretty sure some way or another i will make it.

My concerns are the following please advise.

1. PR or CSQ? Clarifications please cause am getting a lil confused. What is the shortest way (in time) to get there? If any1 can elaborate briefly of how the procedure are?

2. Am 24 and i have read or heard it might take 2 years to get the papers. The lengthiness is a freaking me out a bit. I will be 26 will it be still worth to move? BUT I WILL GO !!

3. For a starter how much money reserve you need to have?

Thanks.

Comment by RS

21 November 2010 @ 11:59 am

With a CSQ can you land in Canada (Quebec) or u need a PR?

Comment by Samia

9 December 2010 @ 12:11 pm

Hello Patrick,

Thanks for replying. Well indeed Canada is a nice country with lots of opportunities but one should be cautious and also be ready to start at the very low of the working ladder.

But once you accept to take any opportunity that comes, then it becomes more and more easier to grow. I was glad to be able to pay for a visit first rather than leaving my job and everything else. It gives you more time to think properly of what you really want.

Well great to read the messages on this blog.

Comment by Samia

9 December 2010 @ 12:20 pm

Hi again Patrick,

Just forgot to ask. How’s the winter actually in Canada:))??

Comment by Patrick Ng

12 December 2010 @ 4:06 am

Hello Samia,

It’s getting cold. It was -16º at least once this past week. Not too bad today, but it seems we will be getting 10 cm where I live tomorrow.

Comment by Patrick Ng

12 December 2010 @ 4:07 am

RS: I don’t think you need a PR to land in Canada if you already have a CSQ. But I may be wrong. I need to stop by the immigration office sometimes this coming week. I will ask them.

Comment by Patrick Ng

12 December 2010 @ 4:10 am

RS: How much money should you bring? Tough question to answer. There is a minimum you should have with you when you land. This is written somewhere in the application form. You’ll need to supply proof that you are bringing this amount in one form or another. This is something the immigration officer will check. Of course, the more you bring, the better for it will allow you more flexibility.

Comment by samia

18 December 2010 @ 12:35 pm

Hi RS,

Well you will indeed need a Permanent Residence(PR) Status to be able to settle in Canada. As I did myself for the Certificat de Selection de Quebec(CSQ) is only the beginning but you will need to have the immigrant visa on your passport. After the CSQ the nairobi office will proceed with further documents and then grant you settlement visa (PR) which is important if you want to settle.

As for money you need to bring with you, well this year(2010) when I landed in Quebec I showed around $10,000 for 2 adults and 1 child. I think if you are going alone then it will be much less, please verify on CIC website.

Just for info, If you are doing Federal application you should show more money but if you are doing Quebec then the amount requested to be shown is less. Either way you choose, you can settle anywhere you want.

Hope this can help you

Comment by Paul

3 May 2011 @ 1:19 pm

I have been reading many comments on this page and unsurprisingly, one thing stands out: these Mauritians believe life beyond Mauritius and in Canada is better.

I’ve never been to Canada so I can’t comment how nice or bad it is. I am a Mauritian settled in Britain ever since I finished my studies there.

What I can say is that there is no such thing as the grass being greener on the other side. If you think Canada is better than Mauritius, you are fooling yourself. If you think Britain is better than Mauritius, you are fooling yourself. All countries have their set of problems; none are perfect. Europe is crumbling under the economic crisis at the moment. Spain has 20% unemployment rate. Ireland debts has been turned to junk, Greece has been bailed out, Portugal could follow at any time. Do you still think those so-called first-world countries are paradise?

The only thing that they have and Mauritius doesn’t is a generous benefit system which provides a safety net. As an immigrant, you won’t be entitled to that for a few years.

I didn’t want to come back to Mauritius simply because I found life somewhat restricted, boring, while in England I have Europe on my doorstep and it is cheaper to travel to these nearby destinations. I don’t regret my choice today, although everything else in England is a pain in the ass for me. But I know if I go back to Mauritius, which I could at any time, I would not be happy.

So for those who want to emigrate, the message is to think carefully why. If it’s for money, yes, you might get it. But at what price? Working in McDo for years? Some sacrifices are not worth it. These countries have less to offer after you’ve spent time there.

When you think of it, the lack of winter in Mauritius means life is pretty cheap. No money to spend on central heating, insulation, winter clothing, etc. Fuel costs a fortune in England and is run by cartels. You have no choice but to pay in order to keep warm. And to get a good job in England, it also pays to know the right person, have the right connection. This is how all those politicians are now in their job.

Mauritius is not as bad a place as us immigrants make it seem. Even people in the US, Canada and UK emigrate all the time for better destinations because they think the grass is greener elsewhere. But it never is truly greener than at home. That’s what you find out when you go to the other side.

Comment by sarr12

14 May 2011 @ 2:43 pm

Hi everybody,
I’m new to the forum.
Thx Patrick for your valuable pieces of info and advice.

@Samia,
Hi, are you still in Mauritius?
Keep sharing your experience with us once you’ll be there, I mean in Toronto:)
Thx

Comment by Patrick Ng

15 May 2011 @ 8:53 pm

@SARR12
You’re welcome.

@Paul
There’s some truth in what you say. However, it’s not totally true either. Life can be tough in Canada. In fact, I think I have said it a few times that the first five years are the toughest in the life of an immigrant in Canada.

I think the main reason which motivated me to move to Canada was to give my daughter (not yet born at that time) a better chance of being able to go to a university. Studying abroad can be very expensive for a Mauritian as you know already.

For sure, I miss my native country a lot. In my heart, I will always be a Mauritian. Nothing will be able to change that. This is why I cherish every one of my trips to Mauritius. It’s the chance to see my relatives and friends and to see land where I was born. I don’t think I said something bad about Mauritius. Every time I come back, I know things are not like they are in Canada.

That said, life can be tough in Mauritius as well. Poverty still applies to so many people in Mauritius. I am always sad to see that some people go to sleep outside with nothing in their stomach. If I were still in Mauritius, I would have probably devoted some time to social work.

Comment by Samia

15 June 2011 @ 12:35 pm

Hello,

Actually there are some truth to what Paul said. But I do not want to be all negative on this. There are difficulties but as you need to understand that, immigration is never a piece of cake. You don’t always get what you want like when you were in your own country (after all ou pays reste ou pays).

If i migrated it was to give my daughter a good education and also to do something else. I went with a different mind set and never never have I benchmark Canada with Mauritius (that’s where u will succeed!).

But what I can tell you is that some friends and family who came to Canada and are all happy and they do have very good job in well known organisation and r have very good salary as well(not McDo!).

If you decide to migrate please do not compare your country with another one. It is you who have to adapt to the country not otherwise. You have advantage like education, places to see and visit, transport, etc…

Anyway each person should see what are the most important things for them in a migration.

My advice would be: If you can afford it, please have a first visit, take a break for a few months and see if you can adapt to the country,

If you are married and have kids, please do not leave both your jobs at a go. Let the husband go first and after he settles down, then your wife and kids can join you.

Hope theses can help!

Comment by Dodo

23 June 2011 @ 8:01 pm

If someone wants to emigrate , it is to “better” his/her life – not to be a nabob.
Paul has been lucky to go for further studies in the UK
Q. How many Mauritians can do that these days or hope that their children can go to university to be a professional if he or she is NOT a member of the Mauritian elite – whether it is from politics or dynasties who have been prosperous on the island since their ancestors settled on it.
Paul can visit Europe ( at his door steps) whenever he feels like it- How many Mauritian can take their family for a trip to UK on a Rs 30K annual salary?
Paul can or will be able to send his kids to private school if he wishes- How many Mauritians can do that? It is a rat race for the CPE and then we have the HSC and then it is a gang of buffoons who select who go where for further studies? In Canada we have a choice for schooling ( Private or public) and the kids can do many after-school activities.
Who can send their kids for music or tennis or swimming lessons in Mauritius?
It is hard at the beginning but disciplined Mauritians can hope to have a roof on their head in Canada and with time upgrade to a bigger one and in better location. May be Paul does not know – our best land is owned by foreigners in Mauritius after the elite has already ‘ eu pignon sur rue”
In canada, one can expect to see a family doctor? Heck see if one can do that in Mauritius if one does not have connections or is willing to pay Rs RS RsRs to go to those ” efficient clinics mushrooming all over ” and catering to the expat community who has found their eldorado on the island – best houses, good schools, maids , best shopping , running water because the government has decided to open the gates to PARADISE. So every caid, drug dealers or traffickers are coming to invest and using their business which do not employ the locals ( except to clean after their families) as a front.
If I want I can buy fresh fruits and veggies in season or else from South America or the USA in winter – tell me if I can do that in Mauritius where the govt is selling agricultural to build concrete monstrosities .Yes there are fresh fruits and fish but tell me who can afford to buy when the highest bidders are the hotels and the expat community.
Sure life is NOT easy at the beginning BUT if one is disciplined one can have it better than in Mauritius.
After all, when my ancestors left their birthplace some 125 yrs to emigrate to Mauritius, Madagascar or Natal as traders life was not rosy BUT they did provide a better life for the generations to come.
I came here for studies and decided to stay put when I was offered a job after university and life was not easy as a student or when I started working. Fortunately I did not have to brown nose a Mauritian politician or “ene Missié Blanc” to get a job. I was hired on my merits and this is how it is done here. Afterwards I got a better job with a higher pay because of my network ( not through nepotism as in Mauritius) who could vouch for me as far as a professional.
Go to the Jettoo hospital and try to ask for something in creole and watch for the answers. You will be flabergasted !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We should not be egoist because we were/are lucky , through sweat and difficulties , to have a better life OUTSIDE Mauritus. Let those who are not connected to politicians or are not elite /have Mauritian pedigree seek their ” place in the sun” for their family.

Comment by Dodo

25 June 2011 @ 3:48 pm

An à propos piece in l’Express:

http://www.lexpress.mu/story/25840-if-you-love-your-country-leave-it.html#comment

Granted, a bit sarcastic but reflects what I have said.

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